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Doom Shepherd
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:27 pm |
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Then you don't know the definition of "huge."
"Huge" is the amount of money we already spend trying to solve those problems.
The apt simile describing the effect of redirecting space funds towards these problems would be "spitting in the ocean."
Talk about assisting developing countries, where would those hurricane warning systems, and communications relays to help coordinate disaster response after earthquakes and tsunamis, be without advanced satellite tracking and sensor systems? How about this... algorithms developed for the Hubble Space Telescope improved image processing in mammography. Ask your female friends if more efficient and accurate breast exams matter to them.
How about the fact that, in order to feed astronauts, we invented preservation processes that were then applied to keep food from spoiling, allowing it to be delivered fresh to millions of people who couldn't have had it otherwise? People like food, if I recall correctly.
Heck, investing a little bit more in space could let us totally eliminate the threat of global warming. Make the switchover to 24-hour solar-generated power, you stop burning fossil fuels for electricity and transportation, there goes all that excess CO2. How's THAT for "sustainable?" (I believe the phrase is "boo-yah.")
Cheap clean energy? Naah, THAT would never revolutionize the world economy. Oh, and how about massively abundant raw materials? Mine a 1-km asteroid, collect $3 trillion in metals. Repeat, oh, 1000 times, before we even exhaust the supply of the closest asteroids.
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Doom Shepherd
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Man, we got wayyyy off topic. My fault.
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Doctor Felix Whooves
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:07 am |
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I just finished a paper on this exact topic, I hope I get an A
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Ross Scott
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:47 pm |
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Michael Archer wrote: Nuclear is great. It's safe, it's efficient, and it's clean. Nuclear power plants take a really long time to build, but they're worth it.
I also like nuclear, because it exposes the environmentalists anti-human, anti-captalist ulterior motives. If they truly believed what they preached, they would love nuclear power the most--but they hate it the most. Nuclear power is the cleanest and most reliable form of energy there is. Wind and Solar aren't practical on the scale that they're needed and they're really unreliable. Oil is good but I think, if Ross is right, it's going to peak soon. Australia and Canada have a lot of Uranium, so that's really good. Wanted to make some clarifications. Calling nuclear power plants clean is kind of a dichotomy. In most practices, it's quite clean, but it has the potential to be the dirtiest power imaginable. By far the biggest potential safety threat to modern nuclear reactors is waste disposal. The problem with radioactive waste from reactors is that it's extremely dangerous exposed and the half-life is so long in practical terms it never goes away. So sure, you can have complete confidence in the waste's future 10 years from now, but 50? 100? 10,000? I guess it won't matter since we'll all be dead, but there's at least some potential risk, especially in regions that may be less stable. Nuclear energy isn't an end-all solution, but I'll take it over no energy production easily.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:10 pm |
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Breeder reactors would eliminate the vast majority of that waste. It's almost funny that the relative cheapness of Uranium kept them from being comercially viable, in the US. and a combination of that and politics caused the few that the US ever built to be shut down. If we'd been reprocessing that waste, we'd have a lot less of it left to worry about today.
France produces nearly eighty percent of its energy with nuclear power. Guess why it doesn't have as serious a nuclear waste problem as the United States? Integral fast reactor. France has had one for 20-odd years.
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Michael Archer
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:17 pm |
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Nuclear Power: not so much that it's a unbelievably great source of energy (it is), but because it's one of the greatest metaphors, ever since the New York City skyline. A power plant is the living testament to man's harness over matter and how capable he is at shaping it to suit his life better in the most efficient way possible--and outside of it, on the streets and presumably haven't washed for days, are the environmentalists screaming for its destruction.
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Red
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:30 am |
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Nuclear power creates the most bang for your buck.
Wind - You need wind farms, entire hillsides covered by the turbines. It ruins landscapes, plain and simple.
Geothermal - You have, what, like 200 places on the globe it can be used. Volcanoes only.
Tidal - This would work, but at the expense of beach space. Plus you might screw up tidal ecosystems.
Hydroelectric - It works, except you destroy gigantic swaths of land. Bad.
Solar - You need a lot of space where it's sunny all the time. The coolest solar energy proposal I ever heard was to take the Los Angeles to Las Vegas stretch of highway and replace it with a solar cell road, but I haven't heard much about it since.
Nuclear just works.
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Vapymid
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:36 am |
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Michael Archer wrote: Nuclear Power: not so much that it's a unbelievably great source of energy (it is), but because it's one of the greatest metaphors, ever since the New York City skyline. A power plant is the living testament to man's harness over matter and how capable he is at shaping it to suit his life better in the most efficient way possible--and outside of it, on the streets and presumably haven't washed for days, are the environmentalists screaming for its destruction. Hmmm, I actually agree with your every word in the above statement. Regards
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Doctor Felix Whooves
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:58 pm |
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Nuclear power is great but will soon be so much better, thanks to "Thoreum" (I hope I spelled that right) reactors using this can't go boom, Thoreum is abundant, and the wast from it only takes 100 years to become safe
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Alyxx Thorne
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:54 am |
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Doctor Felix Whooves wrote: Nuclear power is great but will soon be so much better, thanks to "Thoreum" (I hope I spelled that right) reactors using this can't go boom, Thoreum is abundant, and the wast from it only takes 100 years to become safe Never heard of that before. But if that's true, then that could be a breakthru.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:39 am |
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:51 am |
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When space travel becomes cheap enough I imagine we'll just send the spent fuel to the sun or something.
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Post subject: Re: Nuclear Energy Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:50 pm |
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That would be a huge waste, when we can reprocess it.
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