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Earlier today a good friend recommended that I check out noclip.website.  I subsequently spent several hours exploring several game maps from my childhood in ways I haven't seen them before.

 

It's still a very active project and the developer is active and approachable on their discord.  I figured given Ross's penchant for mapping out games and appreciating their environments this sort of thing must be right up his alley.

 

They're still adding things but what's there is pretty immense already.  I highly recommend checking out Dark Souls, Super Mario Sunshine, and Kingdom Hearts.

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I honestly would rather have the maps locally. Once the website shuts down, that's a lot of content that's just plain gone.

 

Also a lot of these games are pretty mainstream, and some of my favourite levels come from far less known games. Anything that's made by Nintendo, I tend not to care too much about, seeing as I've never been into their games that much. I think it would be cooler if we had the whole Dungeon Siege map, or similar stuff.

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15 hours ago, RaTcHeT302 said:

I honestly would rather have the maps locally. Once the website shuts down, that's a lot of content that's just plain gone.

 

Also a lot of these games are pretty mainstream, and some of my favourite levels come from far less known games. Anything that's made by Nintendo, I tend not to care too much about, seeing as I've never been into their games that much. I think it would be cooler if we had the whole Dungeon Siege map, or similar stuff.

 

There's a handful of interesting games not made by Nintendo that I was pretty keen to check out since I've never seen their maps before (Klonoa, Kingdom Hearts, Dark Souls) and they seem to be expanding.  They also seem pretty welcoming to requests and submissions on their Discord.

 

As for the content disappearing I'm not terribly concerned about that since it's all content that can be experienced in other forms (such as from the games they originally come from) but a lot of the files being used and their methods of extraction aren't being kept terribly secret either.  I'd similarly prefer something local just because I prefer dedicated apps to doing everything on shitty unoptimized web browsers, but given how open and receptive the guy behind this is I don't think we're in a lot of danger of him suddenly pulling the plug and saying, "This content is lost forever with the server and I will never let anybody else host/download it."

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1 hour ago, wjhollyart said:

There's a handful of interesting games not made by Nintendo that I was pretty keen to check out since I've never seen their maps before (Klonoa, Kingdom Hearts, Dark Souls) and they seem to be expanding.  They also seem pretty welcoming to requests and submissions on their Discord.

 

As for the content disappearing I'm not terribly concerned about that since it's all content that can be experienced in other forms (such as from the games they originally come from) but a lot of the files being used and their methods of extraction aren't being kept terribly secret either.  I'd similarly prefer something local just because I prefer dedicated apps to doing everything on shitty unoptimized web browsers, but given how open and receptive the guy behind this is I don't think we're in a lot of danger of him suddenly pulling the plug and saying, "This content is lost forever with the server and I will never let anybody else host/download it."

From what I've seen, very often just plain incompetence, and not planning ahead does have an impact. As long as there's no backup release, on a more future proof website, designed for long term, future storage, then I'll always have that worry. To me an untested backup might as well not exist. I mean if it literally doesn't exist, then I don't really have much else to say then.

 

I think that, the easier the backups are to access, the better. I would really like to have a zip file with all the maps, and some kind of custom model viewer, so that you can view the maps at any time.

 

I mean the maps in Kingdom Hearts are neat to look at, but I feel like there's so much more content which we are missing out on overall, by just focusing on the big games alone. Which is an honest shame to me, I think it kinda limits the potential of the project, I really hope to see more variety in the future.

 

That Sonic Mania stuff is just really random though, why would we waste server space on a bunch of 3D numbers? It just seems odd.

 

Anyway, I'm the type of person who's generally not a fan of the, "it'll be fine" excuse. I've seen too many promising projects which just burn out into nowhere because of that. I don't think planning ahead and being ready for the worst case scenario can really hurt that much.

 

I would rather be paranoid and wrong, instead of being paranoid and right. I hope my post doesn't sound too harsh either way, that wasn't my intention.

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Interesting how judging by the Dark Souls map files, parts of certain areas seem to reveal bits and pieces that don't exist in the final product. From Firelink Shrine, for example, you can go up to the part of Undead Burg just before the first bonfire (where all the fight clubs and such are held), and you can find that there's a building at the top of the ramp and scaffolding at the base of it that aren't actually there once you reach it.

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2 hours ago, Annie said:

Interesting how judging by the Dark Souls map files, parts of certain areas seem to reveal bits and pieces that don't exist in the final product. From Firelink Shrine, for example, you can go up to the part of Undead Burg just before the first bonfire (where all the fight clubs and such are held), and you can find that there's a building at the top of the ramp and scaffolding at the base of it that aren't actually there once you reach it.

Yes, that tends to happen, with a lot of games with interconnected maps. I can't think of any examples right now though.

Each map is it's own individual file, and you pretty much need to update each map by hand.

 

I mean you probably knew that, but I don't know, I thought I had more to add but I guess not.

 

The only thing which comes to mind are the canyons in Need For Speed Carbon, where off in the distance, you can see cut off content or something similar. I forgot what it was about. It might've been bullshit actually, I really don't remember.

 

Maybe Half Life 2 had something like that? I can't remember, which ones were real, and which ones were just jokes.

I swear, I do remember something about the canyons in Carbon though.

 

I'm 100% remembering it wrong, maybe I'm just crazy.

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