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Hello folks, new member here (joined last night). 

By the time of this post, I have reached 250 games on my library...I've spent 10 years of my life in the platform buying games supporting creators and sharing alot of gaming expiriences with other people, I think if it wasn't for Valve it would've be more limited or worse access to the games I enjoy(ed) and probably half of them wouldn't even exist or simply be unknown/unreachable to me.

With that in mind, it got me thinking: What the hell will happen if this store shuts down someday or gets sold out or worse, just decide to take some or all of my games from my library for some reason? What if I'm really supporting the wrong people from the start (Valve)?

I even decided to ask their support on what measures they have for my concerns and...well...I guess some of you guys already know how well that went (attached image below).

Side Note: My english is not really good, so bear with me if I made that question too poorly for them to give me a real awnser...

I know some of these questions are done to death but I feel I never gave enough thought on the matter...and given past events and some discussions I had here and there I can't help but to bring this topic again and hope to get a better perspective, both from costumers and indie developers alike (if there is any in these Forums) on the realities of having to deal with Steam/Valve and what can that be said to the future of PC gaming? I'm trying to do some research, but without any good directions aside from finding Ross videos and these forums (Jim Sterling too maybe?)  I don't know any other sourcers I could follow in a pratical matter I guess, at least not when it comes to Valve/Steam specificly.

I hope the post is clear enough to start a good discussion, feel free to post text walls I got alot of time for that (given current circunstances). In case people may want more info on my experiences with the industry, here is a small list just in case:

- I've been using GoG and Microsoft Store XGP. GoG mostly for old games but i've been slowly starting to purchase newer games there as well (Outward, Surviving Mars i.e) but combined they are still like 0.1% of my digital collection.

- I'm more or less aware of the issues regarding shovelware and asset flips that came from Steam Greenlight and Steam Direct, but I'd still appriciate thoughts on the matter regardless. 

- I don't understand DRM as much as I should, to my understanding, it's a ''moderate'' way to prevent piracy but it also validates the very concerns I have right now and I believe to this community as well, Ross video makes excelent points but still, your opinions are still welcomed. 

-I still hold the stance that, dispite it's issues, steam is/was a good platform at the time I started broading my gaming experience (back then I would go the traditional route of buying physical copies which, in my experience, was very limited as a PC player and my country (Brazil) is known for outlandish prices for both hardware and console game prices (99 bucks vs 200 back in early 20's, not anymore because economy) but as mentioned earlier I feel I may be losing perception of the true realities of the platform now. 

TL;DR - Spent too much in a store for too long and I think I need a reality check, please send help. 


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I asked this years ago elsewhere, and found a answer somewhere.


APPARENTLY, BACK THEN, Gabe said that in that event steam would release the...dlls? appls? Something-ls, offline play lite basically. I think it also means you HAVE to have the games downloaded - purchased but not downloaded would be a no go or a rush-grab to DL everything....


There are many concerns however - whether they WOULD do this, because that was YEARS ago, before GaAS and all that, and what will DRM do to your games, the like. Just because it might be both easy to do and the 'right' thing to do does not mean that Steam, the Publishers, or both WILL do it. Gotta get used to being forked over, cha know?


That reply from support doesn't raise any hope. It's too haughty. Too much hubris. Especially since Steam is asked this question every odd week, they should have a cookie-cutter response from years ago.


And it's going to happen, eventually. Steam won't last forever. Nothing won't. Best thing we can hope for is that it lasts longer than we do, and if it doesn't, that somehow, they do the right thing. Because honestly the industry seems to be gearing up to never do the right thing ever again. Hell a recent article says they might have to be sued into actually doing anything.


It's part of the reason I went over to GoG and try to buy games there first than on Steam. No, really. I like just having the .exe file stored somewhere. 

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Some games can be played without client (you just go into steamapps directory and run them from there) and it should be possible to use fake client as well, so backing up your Steam games is very possible.



edit: Interesting – looking at this list I found out that Dust: An Elysian Tail can be played DRM-free on Linux, but not on Windows.

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