BTGBullseye

Sounds good, but which files did you update?

Woah, woah, woah! I never meant for this thread to become a flame war or anything. I just wanted a civilized topic about me creating a micronation on an island somewhere, never meant to offend anyone.

Too late, we've expanded into reality now.

And forced government healthcare.

Not really, and even if it was it's not actually bad.

Can you show any evidence that forcing people to have health insurance, and fining them for twice the price of better coverage if they don't, isn't a bad thing? (and up to 10x the price of the best coverage after 3 years)

And forced carbon dioxide emission restrictions.

Which doesn't affect your life.

So brown outs due to insufficient power generation caused by forced co2 monitoring and regulation, and making electricity prices triple doesn't affect me? (that is exactly what happened when they put in co2 regulations here)

And forced to employ minorities instead of the best qualified

Lie.

No it isn't. If you don't employ a certain amount of a certain demographic, you are fined by the government. It doesn't matter that someone else from a majority demographic is better qualified, they aren't hireable if you don't have enough from the minorities. (look up "Affirmative Action")

And forced regulation of anything that has to do with money

Exaggerated.

Proof?

And forced to use public schools instead of whatever teaching institution is best.

Privately funded schools are not the "best", or even close.

Never said they were 'better'... You should reread the statement, and quit putting words where none were written.

"Best" = The best institution for educating the individual that needs education... The curriculum used by the particular institution is very much a factor in this, as I myself have the experience that the vast majority of public schools use a curriculum that uses a learning method that doesn't work with me.

And forcing everyone to use less plentiful and more expensive "renewable" energy sources.

Which has long term environmental benefits, and isn't "forced".

And where is the conclusive proof that this is the case? There is a 50/50 split between scientists concerning this issue.

And forcing citizens to be unarmed if confronting someone trying to do bodily harm

Lie.

Gun control laws, all the cases where the victim broke an attacker's arm or killed the attacker and then had to pay hospital fees and/or go to jail... Where's the lie?

And forcing people to become non-religious in public locations

Exaggerated.

Public schools banning prayer, or any religious gatherings on their property, and any mention of religious activities while on their property... Libraries doing the same, and even removing bibles from the shelves... Firing people that violate these rules... I can go on.

Self sufficient = they would already have the food on-site because they would use the existing infrastructure. 90% of all logistical needs would already be in-place.

No, I'm talking about getting everything together, mobilized, and then get it to the destination (which is two oceans away and hold little value).

First, it would take about 3 days for either country mentioned to mobilize a force that could perform an invasion of those sized islands, and even make it look like they were doing nothing.

Second, the importance is strategic in nature... Don't underestimate how much value there is in a strategic location. There are loads of governments that maintain holds on locations for no other reason than strategic military locations. (like the USA and Guam for a very long time)

So would insulting your grandma, but it wouldn't make anyone currently in power react violently, or allow it to strain relations too much with a country that effectively owns 90% of the economy.

1. China doesn't own 90% of the economy.

2. Irrelevant in any case, hostility is hostility.

3. If it was NK, it would provoke violence.

1. I'll admit, it was an exaggeration... It's actually a lot more complicated than "owning" a percentage of the economy. More like controlling the underlying systems that control the US economy in such a way as to control 90% of the US economy.

2. And that means nothing to countries that have the majority of their populous that wants to focus on their own internal issues, and the rest that just want good relations with the rest of the world at all costs.

3. Can you provide proof?

Additionally, how are they going to sneak the weapons past US intel? What does China have to gain from it? Additionally, NK can barely move outside its own borders without half the world screaming.

They wouldn't need to sneak anything after an invasion, it would be their soil at that point.

China would gain a strategic location from which to stage an attack on other countries, provided they wanted to. At the very least it would make for good staging point for relaying goods.

That's only when they try to attack someone who has allied with several of the world's superpowers.

Currently trying to figure out why this one program on my computer refuses to accept Java.

What program?

OT: Still playing with my laser... I'll post pics when I get my new phone. (best I can do for pictures until then a extremely low quality 1280x720 images loaded with artifacts, after I get it, I can do very high quality 1080p video of me playing with it)

1. Yes.

2. I cant even get the main menu to come up when I first start the game, how can I load a save game?

3. I do not.

4. They are all loaded, and in the proper order.

5. Tried, no change.

6. The way it's acting is identical to what I've seen happen when two mods are loaded out of order... When I load your main mod first instead of last, it works fine.

1. I know of no such mod, and that is the default AI. I heard of someone that was working on improving the AI, but haven't seen it yet.

2. Haven't gotten around to trying it since the recent update, but I'll be testing it tonight.

3. Haven't gotten around to trying it since the recent update, but I'll be testing it tonight.

[EDIT] Major problem with the update... Now the entire UI refuses to accept keyboard or mouse inputs, and freezes the UI just before putting up the main menu. Even makes it difficult to close out of the game without logging out of Windows.

Banned for not posting a reason.

The response would be different based on what species the head came from, and what condition it was in when I got it. Mainly I'd be concerned with why someone would spend the money to mail a head to me without first telling me what it's for.

If pineapples never existed?

Granted... It's made of bovine feces, and was shoved into your face.

I wish that people everywhere would realize that pizza is a type of pie.

Why thanks for the compliment, I would've though I was considered overweight... So does that mean that you're what the rest of the world calls "morbidly obese"?

The only "meddling" that I could possibly think of is higher taxes and eminent domain. Otherwise, you're free to live out your life.

And forced government healthcare... And forced carbon dioxide emission restrictions... And forced to employ minorities instead of the best qualified... And forced regulation of anything that has to do with money... And forced to use public schools instead of whatever teaching institution is best... And forcing everyone to use less plentiful and more expensive "renewable" energy sources... And forcing citizens to be unarmed if confronting someone trying to do bodily harm... And forcing people to become non-religious in public locations... There are lots more I can go into, but those are just from the first link I posted.

You need to keep everyone fed, all ships fueled, all weapons stocked, etc.

Self sufficient = they would already have the food on-site because they would use the existing infrastructure. 90% of all logistical needs would already be in-place.

No offensive to the OP, but micronations are almost never considered actual nations, nor would they be recognized as such.

True.

Uh, no. Putting weapons there would be a sign of hostility.

So would insulting your grandma, but it wouldn't make anyone currently in power react violently, or allow it to strain relations too much with a country that effectively owns 90% of the economy.

A great big lie.

See above.

Please elaborate.

1. They can't get there. It's because of this thing called logistics.

2. They'd have to violate US air and naval space just to get there.

3. Installing weaponry so close to the US would damage US-Chinese relations, or would be used as a pretext to attack NK or remove it from the islands it occupies.

1. If the country can become self-sufficient, then there is very little need for logistics apart from the initial invasion, which is easy to do if the defending military is small enough.

2. Anything beyond 11 miles of a coastline is international waters... The second proposed island/islands would have it's own 11 mile border, and a median border with Great Brittan, this leaves a large area from which to attack with effective impunity.

3. As long as the weapons, no matter how close, are not fired, the US would not allow it to hurt relations, and would have no recourse or inclination to attack anyone.

For military forces, it'd be cheaper to just have a volunteer defense force with a lot of training, and good equipment. I can do some of the training myself, but I would require a slightly different form of government. (I can't stand governments that meddle in my private life, which is one of the fundamental Liberal ideals)

Look at this for determining whether you are more Liberal or Conservative... http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs/

Take this test to see where you are on the political scale... http://www.politicalcompass.org/

As for air assaults, 99% of the major powers that would want an island near another major power would primarily use an airborne strikeforce, as naval assaults are far less efficient.

And yet, I'm a supermodel compared to you.

There are some Dark Shadows on my wall... One of them looks like it's trying to Scream.

Sell it for a lot of money.

If time ran backwards until you were 2 years old, but you could remember everything, and so could everyone else? (including the time reversal of living everything in reverse, even reverse-birthing for some)

Banned for hating on statements.

Granted, it is now rule 1, and rule 34 is missing. All corollaries are still there, but now refer to rule 1.

I wish that things would get better.

8/10

Too many horns.

Star Was

A documentary about black holes.

Are you self-cooking?

Playing with my new 405nm laser.

I'll give it a go... Make sure it doesn't have any internet requirements though, as I block them.

Rise of the Triad.

Original founders or not, TPB will stand for as long as the governments of the world employ stupid laws about DRM, and as long as companies use DRM.

Besides, the founders do have contact with people while they're in jail, and can advise from in there.

My question is how anyone expects to get millions out of these guys when they ran a 'non-profit', and didn't make a lot of money? (it was a .org for a long while)

You might want to look into the definition of the government you're talking about making... It's a Democratic Republic... Same thing available in the USA. There really is no such thing as a "Liberal Democracy" unless it's a Democracy entirely controlled by Liberals.

As for military, if you don't have one, someone is going to take over. China and North Korea would love to get a nice little puppet country next to US soil.

The major problem with both locations you described is that they have populations on the islands, and all you need to block you from making a country is just 1 person that is unwilling to sell. (and there are a lot of people that will refuse to sell if they don't like what you're going to put there when they're gone)

If you're wanting the best location to make a new country, try privately buying some uninhabited islands, or make your own island, or go to space. Those are the only ways you're going to succeed in making a country in this age short of military force.