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    ROSS'S GAME DUNGEON: QUARANTINE

    How big would a full res, whole view of the map be, in one screenshot? (either top down, or in some kind of isometric view, like those giant Minecraft web browser maps). I don't think anyone minds you posting your progress, at least it doesn't bother me anyway. Part of me wants to see, what the whole city would look like with the draw distance increased, or completely removed.
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    Post your setup!

    I looked into VA monitors, but I can only find curved ones. I just like flat screens more to be honest, I understand the potential benefits, but I'm not always in front of my monitor, so having it being curved would actually be a huge downside for me. I have a strange setup, which works better with flat monitors either way. I guess I could give this one a shot. I need to do some more research on it though. https://www.amazon.it/Viewsonic-VX2758-C-mh-monitor-piatto-Curvo/dp/B078ZJHD25 This one is a bit cheaper, seems tempting. https://www.amazon.it/Viewsonic-VX2458-C-MHD-pannello-FreeSync-altoparlante/dp/B07H5GNR18/ I think they both have the 1800 radius. Anyway I'd be willing to give one of these a shot, the design is less tacky than the MSI one at least. I need to check if the color are okay first though. Apparently these might have some brightness issues, honestly I might just give up and get that MSI at this point, if it has no problems. I need to do some more research, but I guess I should consider curved monitors, if flats won't be made anymore I guess. I'm really worried about graphics work though, if I can find a good flat monitor, I would rather go for that instead. I need things to have the correct perspective. I have mixed feelings, but I'll consider the options. I would rather go for the safer option though. Edit: Okay, apparently VA flats, don't really exist, because VAs just work better with curved monitors? With flat surfaces, there are some problems? I'm not really sure about this. I've started to notice a pattern, so maybe there's some truth to it. I guess my only options are a TN or an IPS, as far as flat screens goes. Feel free to prove me wrong though, I don't really have any basis for this claim, it's just what I'm finding on the internet, and I've noticed a few things while looking around.
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    ROSS'S GAME DUNGEON: QUARANTINE

    The map is made out of blocks? That looks really tedious to work with. Also I'm getting a StarCraft vibe from the store fronts.
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    Post your setup!

    Is there a flat version of the monitor? My current monitor died, and I've been on the lookout for a similar replacement, and I've been looking at the 144 Hz ones, but all I can find are either awful TN \ VA flat monitors, or ultra expensive IPS curved monitors (by awful I mean, brightness issues, strange colors, no matter what settings you used). Is there no option for a purely, flat, nice looking monitor (with a simple design, no tacky "gamer" crap), with good colors (not TN or VA, if possible?), at 144 Hz? Edit: Nevermind, this monitor is also a VA panel. I'll have to wait for AOC to release their flat IPS lineup, here's hoping they are okay. I'm fine with TN, but I heard horror stories about some monitors having, horrid colors, or horrible brightness issues, and it really scares me a little. I really don't care about the panel type that much, as long as everything else looks fine. My SyncMaster 2343 NW is a TN + Film and it worked just fine with Photoshop, for me at least. If AOC release their IPS monitors for cheap, I would rather wait for those instead though. What are the potential downsides of IPS monitors though? I keep seeing people mentioning something about, some kind of glow, and eye strain, along with ghosting issues, but I don't know what any of that really looks like. Does the glow matter that much, in a decently lit room?
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    Linux gaming technical discussion

    Sorry for hijacking the thread, but if there's any info on how to turn off billinear filters \ get pixel perfect scaling (I forgot the term for it), it would be nice to have some info on it, it would be useful for games like StarCraft, where the game is just a blurry mess.
  6. I don't know, if it stops games from dying, I'm for it? But otherwise, I don't see what the big deal is for the most part. Maybe it's just me, but I sorta understand how artificial these systems are, and I could never see myself paying real money, to have a computer giving me some numbers, and a colored icon back. Like I'm paying two bucks, just to have the computer, pick a random number for me. It doesn't matter if what I get also has, some kind of artificially inflated value, I spent two bucks on a PNG, but wait, the TEXT is RED and it's ULTRA DUPER RARE and... no come on, the people who waste money on this stuff, have either no concept of actual value, or are too irresponsible to handle actual money. I feel like if you ban something like this, people will just circumvent it, by calling it something different, or by simply bypassing the restrictions. Again, I feel like, if you hand your kid a credit card, and you just tell him to go nuts on a game, you are a dumbass. If you can't even be bothered to raise your kids, and if you'd rather let some big corporation take care of them, you are most likely, just working too damn much. Maybe this is part of a larger problem? Maybe most parents are too busy, so they just, hand kids over a phone? But it seems so abnormal to me, I used to have people complaining, day and night, that I was using my computer too much, even when I was spending most of my summer outside, I was biking around and whatever, it was boring as hell, but I did it. I liked to explore around the area, but my parents never let me wander around too far. Can't blame them though. But, all the people who complained about me, that I was wasting my time with all this technology, are ironically, actually addicted into social media now, and they are stuck to their phones 24/7. I've seen people going into the bathroom with their phone, that's disgusting. I get bored after 15 minutes of browsing the internet aimlessly, honestly I would rather turn off my PC if I really have nothing to do. I understand that this might be a real problem, but too often I see really young kids, with their faces just stuffed into a phone, and I often find out, that most of them, can't even use their phones too well, in a very competent manner, which I find really worrying. I'm older by now that most kids, and I would expect them to surpass me as far as the technical knowledge goes, but a lot of them seem to struggle even with the simplest of things to be honest. I know a lot of people who get really angry, and I actually knew a kid, who apparently snapped an actual laptop in half, just because he got pissed off. I don't know, if it's such a big deal, then I guess it's a positive thing? I just find it strange how, this is an actual problem. I couldn't justify ever paying for microtransactions, even if a game was too grindy. I would rather, just not play it. Why torture myself with something I don't even enjoy? I just don't see the point. Overall, the fact that we need such a law, just seems a bit disturbing to me, and are parents so busy, and so overworked, to the point where, they can't even spend some time with their kids anymore? Man that sucks, our future is looking grim. I would rather have a bill, which stops companies, from letting you work for more than 20 hours, and you can only come to work, for up to four days in a week. I would love if Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays were all day offs. Anything more than those twenty hours, and you either should go home and rest, or you deserve more money, than whatever you are earning. But no, let's have a bill about gambling, because THINK OF THE CHILDREN. I don't know, I feel like the problem is not being approached correctly here. PS: It's so strange to me how people are so anti-technology, but at the same time they are pro-technology. Like they use it, if it's entertaining to them, but the moment anything goes wrong, it's all hell on earth. I'm apparently stupid because I didn't go to college, and according to most people, because I don't have a degree, it means, that I'm nothing. And yet, whenever I have to solve someone's problem, guess who people come for help to. And it's not like I can say no, I have to figure it out, I have to help them out. I'm the house mule pretty much. It's just strange to see people struggling with normal, streamlined technology also. Sure it might take me a couple of minutes to figure out, but it's worse when people mock me, when I'm genuinely trying to learn something new, and it doesn't help when people both pressure me, and just act like they are tough shit, when I'm struggling with something (happens very often in grocery stores, say, when you have to weight your stuff alone, or at self serving cashiers, though I avoid using those, because they are badly designed, and it's faster and easier to just, wait in line - and I'm very pro automation also, but there's not really anything automatic about that, I'm just torturing myself with a bad system for the most part). People are mean and they don't appreciate the technology we have nowdays, or the times we live in. I for one, love modern medicine. But I really think, kids gambling, is the last thing we should be worrying about. Climate change is so BAD, to the point where, lions are going extinct. https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/15951/115130419 This is stupid, we need a bill to solve actual problems, not stupid worthless crap like this. Who gives a shit about the children? THINK OF THE LIONS. OUR SEAS ARE LITERALLY BURNING AWAY. EVERYTHING IS DYING. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS CRAP. oh no those poor children, what will they do, without their crippling gambling addiction, oh no the lions are dying? who cares, the children are gambling, nobody cares about lions, pftt hey, your city is looking a little bit, UNDERWATER? EHHH - yeah it's our new Atlantis tour it's worldwide it's free* *not free, lots of death and misery included, oops what are the lions gonna do, gamble our children away? they won't, they are dead, dead lions can't gamble silly (Not an actual spoiler, it's just for emphasis)
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I completelly forgot about tractors having DRM. I'm willing to say that, crap like Photoshop, is a downright scam. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xykkkd/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware https://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/ How is this not illegal yet? Look! ACTUAL REAL LIFE GOODS, CAN BE SUBJECT TO THIS BULLSHIT. WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT??? What's next, Toilets as a Service? Water as a Service? Breathable Air as a Service? This has gone on too far already. So if someone gives you the "but games aren't real" or "games aren't a good" argument, tell them that there are tractors, with DRM on them. Actual fucking DRM. Oops. Guess you were all pirates all along. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xykkkd/why-american-farmers-are-hacking-their-tractors-with-ukrainian-firmware When a bunch of farmers, make the same arguments, as an internet gaming forum, you know there's something horribly wrong with this system. The fact that some of my arguments, are now confirmed, to work both ways, is just sad. Videogame or not, what I've said before, still applies. It's sad really, it shouldn't be like this.
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    I swear, I think it had AI bots though, I would've been fine with just playing against AIs, I'm not that hardcore into multiplayer games to be honest.
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I guess game development companies are literally retarded then. Whatever, I'm not even shocked or surprised, just, annoyed if anything. Like of course, that's the reason. I mean that's the stupidest way of making money but, I don't get it. I just don't get it. It needs some proof though, it only sounds like speculation to me at least. It sounds plausible though???
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    Ah, ok. I got that, I actually wanted to mention how this is part of a bigger problem, but it sorta felt redundant to me. I just left it out.
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    I doesn't matter if the game is Indie, or AAA. Or some random flash game. Games as a Service is a cultural tragedy, and when games like The Last Stand are affected by it, you know there's something horribly wrong with it. This affects all games, not just the big ones. And honestly, I wanted to try LawBreakers, WildStar, BattleBorne, Hawken, but I can't, the games were already dead, before I even got to them. I understand that maybe it's silly to, care this much about something most people essentially believe to be, children's enterainment, but, I deeply believe that it needs to be stopped, I've already missed out on who knows how many games, and some of them honestly, looked really cool, but I'll never know if that was true, if I can't even look at them anymore. I mean honestly, there's something really pure about videogames to me. It's something I always believed in and it's something I always enjoyed since my very childhood, and if it wasn't for videogames, I sure as hell would have never gotten to this point. I mean hell, I'm on my way to make my own game, something I never thought I could ever accomplish, it was a childish dream, but now I realize that maybe there's hope, and if there's hope for me, there's hope for everything else. Games as a Service, doesn't just mean, games which are always Online - It's esentially nothing more than a pre-determined death sentence. And it's bullshit, we shouldn't have to accept that. Nobody should. It affects everyone equally, and one day, you'll lose that one game, you deeply care about, and you wish, you had done more about it. I mean, there's nothing really wrong with dreaming, isn't it? If we give up now, things will just get worse, and I don't want things to go more downhill, than they already have, and I really hope that a genuine stance will be taken against these terrible practices. I think it's extremelly important to keep the pressure up, for as long as possible. Someone will snap eventually. I just hope it's not us.
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I think @danielsangeo is the subtitles guy? Maybe try sending him a PM. I also sent him a PM just in case, to help you out. If he doesn't respond, I think you can just post the subtiles anyway. You can make a thread, in this section, with your subtitles. https://www.accursedfarms.com/forums/forum/43-ukranian-українська/ I don't know how their system works. But the daniel guy could probably help you.
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    I mean, games did get cheaper to make for people who work on their own. Unity and Unreal are, a pretty good deal on their own, even if you look past the bullshit, any of the companies did. There's also Godot, but, that one's kinda rough right now, and I don't like some of their design choices, I feel like picking that engine now, means that you'll constantly be redoing things over and over again, I feel like they are making a lot of the same mistakes other engines made also. I would've used it, or at least would've tried to, if they weren't wasting so much time on a few things I don't really care about though. The Unreal Engine 4 is tempting, but for all the wrong reasons to me. It's such a bloated mess otherwise. I'm trying to untangle the mess, but I secretly hope that Godot can somehow overtake it, as far as a minimum feature set goes. That engine is not ready for me though. I can't take Star Citizen seriously, I looked at their store once, and maybe I'm going fucking insane, but I saw a 3D model, being sold for 10.000$. Like, you should be getting the actual 3D model data at that point, what am I paying for at this point, a checkbox? I'm literally paying for the ability, to spawn the stupid thing. Why? Just, no freaking way, I'll pass on the game. It looks janky as hell anyway, and the free trial was just, not great, the graphics looked really bland, and washed out, it just looks like any other CryEngine game out of the box, just the overall feel was bad to me, I would rather be playing the Ace Combat games, the flying in those feels so good. Honestly, the people who threw that much money at the game are insane. And where did a bunch of internet weirdos get so much money to fund such a game? I don't get the internet sometimes. It confuses me. Besides, I remember thinking that No Man's Sky looked really boring when they first talked about it, I mean sure the trailer was cool, but I wasn't get much of a fun vibe out of it, I was expecting a boring survival crafting game, and it was exactly what it ended up being. Do I really want to play No Man's Sky 2.0? Like, it's cool guys if you can make whole planets and all of that? But if the gameplay is bland as everything else, why would I bother wasting my time with it? I would rather play something, with some actual soul put into it, instead of, glorified FedEx fetch quest simulator, number 50, NOW WITH ROUND PLANETS!!! Like come on, you know the missions are going to have to be boring by design, there's just too much empty space, you can't make everything that interesting, I would probably die trying to come up with ideas, on how to make a game, with an actual universe, still fun for more than 10 seconds. I like ambitious games, but this is stupid ambitious, as in, I already own, Elite Dangerous, that game sucks dick, it's space Eurotruck Simulator, but somehow, they managed to make that, EVEN MORE BORING, IN SPACE. Even the backgrounds are so bland honestly. I just forced myself through Space Rangers HD instead, the game is janky, the aliens look kinda bad, but I cheated, and I actually started to have some fun with it, I'm actually looking forward to a proper sequel to that game, if it'll ever happen, it deserves one. Oh oops, sorry for going Off Topic, but legal and law stuff is just, boring to talk about. Please don't kill me mods. PS: The Star Citizen website sucks. I can't even figure out, how to find the 10.000$ ship again, or where to even buy the game, or what even is part of the game. Or what even is sold as a game. This whole project is a mess. Yikes, and people complain about 20 bucks being too much sometimes. Bleh, why. I only need to pay 0$ in other games. Boring COOL And hey, I don't need to go bankrupt to play this game for sure.
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    Firefox Plugin Issue

    Nah, it happened before already. Also holy shit YouTube is god awful, I had SEVEN, SEVEN ADS IN A ROW. I didn't actually get to see any of them, I just ended up loading the extension in about:debugging, but good god, the internet is so shit without an Ad Blocker, how do most people not go fucking insane? Here's proof, to prove that I'm not insane. https://www.ghacks.net/2017/05/05/fix-for-disabled-add-ons-in-firefox-nightly/ I'm pretty sure, this happened a WHOLE bunch of times, way before already.
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    I've actually checked the subreddit out of plain curiosity, and I've seen a thread, very similar to this post. I understand your grief, but... uhhh... I think you guys are a bit optimistic, we aren't trying to overthrow entire governements here, it's mostly about stopping games from dying in the future. Capitalism can, probably wait. And to be honest, it's not such a horrible system, it's just, mis-managed. I really am not a fan of people who are trying to get politics involved into this, to me this isn't about that. People are greedy, we already know that. Let's focus on one problem at a time for now though. I don't know anything about laws, and if what the people who Ross talked say is legitimate, but it's always nice to have a second opinion on things you are not sure about for sure, it might reveal some truth you are still not aware of, or it might just bring up into view some information you weren't aware about. I wouldn't just dismiss them like that, I'm sure that most of them, genuinely want to help out, but it's not in their power for the most part. I'm sure if they had a few millions stashed away, and a solid enough reputation, the problem would've been solved ages ago. I do believe that a lot of laws are, overly generalized, they attempt to cover too many problems at once. Something like a videogame, REALLY NEEDS IT'S OWN, SPECIFIC LAWS.
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I don't know, I just find it a bit ridiculous, how I can literally wait, and games which could potentially cost trillions to develop, will later sell for peanuts, even though the value of the work put into them, is way higher than the asking price. And I'm mostly talking about solo, indie people. The problem with game discounts, is that you create a different kind of expectation. If you are lucky enough, hopefully your game is selling, even if less often, but the moment you discount a game, once the sale ends, people might actually stop buying the game, at the original price, just because it's not on sale anymore. People who would've otherwise paid full price for the game, are now also part of the more reluctant playerbase. I mean why would they pay the full price, when they know that the game is going to be discounted again, in a couple of months? I've seen too many indie multiplayer games, obliterating their populations, just by doing that. It's ok in the short term, but in the long term it honestly kills some games. Great for the players, saves a lot of money, and it's great value, but you ruin the perception of the game in my mind, seeing as some people start to perceive the game as of a lower quality, the moment it starts to go into a certain threshold. Humble Bundles are another example, of games people will never, ever buy again at full price, once it gets sold for like a buck. Even though there are a limited number of game keys, most people will believe that's the price the game should be sold at, in the future. EA actually faced this problem (I think, I don't really remember), where, whatever games they bundled on the website, are now completelly devalued (if you are aware of Humble Bundles or third party key websites anyway). Maybe I'm remebering it wrong, but I swear, I remember reading something about EA complaining about it, but I honestly forgot, maybe it was just my immagination. I'm probably going crazy honestly. Bear in mind that, I don't understand how the economy works, so don't take any advice from me please. I personally feel like, I would rather have people, who actually want to play the game to buy it, at a higher price, instead of 1000 people who'll buy a game, just to have it sitting there in their library. Sure it's less money, but I don't care about money that much in the long term. I would rather have people who actually want to play the game, to get a copy. It's some weird logic, but I'm not really sure how to explain the why to. Sorry for repeating myself so much. Anyway I don't really feel too overly confident in my arguments, seeing as the sales do benefit me, but I just have a lot of doubts overall. I feel like a hypocrite for complaining about it either way. But it does feel like an anomaly overall.
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    Can we go back to having fun again. Wait hold on, unless fun has also been declared illegal. NO FUN ALLOWED???
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    Legal analysis roundup (for USA)

    IT'S NOT OVER YET
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I don't know, to me the killing games part, is mostly a side effect. They are mostly trying to maximize how much money they can milk out of you, but beyond that, I doubt it was really planned out like that. Nobody really cares enough about the problem, as long as the money keeps flowing. I feel like we are just heading into the conspiracy theory territory at this point, when in most cases, it really all comes down to just, plain and simple monetary greed. I could be wrong though, but, I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, I just see what I see, for the most part. Their actions are what really determines, how I feel about them, and how I approach the overall problem. Also, if game developers are stupid enough to devalue their own games, that's their own problem. It's just what sales do. But I feel like this is straying away, from the core problem, and from what actually matters to us, as the players. Hey, I don't care if you bundle your game for one buck, your loss, my gain. Games as a Service is malicious, but for all the wrong reasons, in my mind.
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    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I just had a sudden realization. If we were to generalize, would Games as a Service, apply to Software as a Service? Like Photoshop? When you pay monthly for say, Photoshop, the software doesn't just randomly get deleted off your computer after 30 days. You can either renew the subscription, or you can bypass the protection. All functionality is still there, if you bypass the protection (beyond some, online only Adobe services, I suppose). Either way, it's a giant rip off, you are paying them 30 bucks per month, to do a whole lot of nothing esentially. But it's sorta legal? (for some reason????) *BEEP BOOP* *IS HE PAYING???* *OK COOL* *BADA BEEP BABA BOOP* *THANK YOU FOR YOUR MONEY* Huh, I guess Photoshop is the expection. Isn't Photoshop like stupid popular? Wouldn't people just be willing to fork the 30 - 60 bucks once, and be done with it? They must be doing something with all that money, right? Oh. They wanted to resell you the same version... over and over again. Okay... Nevermind, they are just assholes, and here I thought they were paying the workers better wages or something. STUPID ME. Yeah, it almost has something to do with the fact, that people want to buy, functional software... huh... You know, to get things done? FUNCTIONAL. I'm surprised that, we don't have DLC software. I mean, Software Expansion Packs? Hey, if it's justified, I mean, why not? But that implies that they would actually create something worth paying for. HAH, YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOME ACTUAL CHOICES? SUCKER. I have no idea if this interview is real... but... it sounds too plausible. I don't want to think about it. Just look away. It's like with World of Warcraft, if the server costs are so high, why can't I just buy the "60 bucks, host it your damn self" edition. And honestly, the only excuse as to why "live services" games exist, has to do with the fact that, they can claim that they can patch the game live, in real time. There's no reason as to why the gameplay data even needs to be on the servers, like why, what's the point? I have the 3D models and everything else, are they seriously holding hostage, a bunch of text files? That's what they are so afraid of releasing, with the game? It's just stupid the more you look into it honestly. Like there's no reason to any of this madness. Like who gives a shit? All these stupid "features", just make the whole thing more anti consumer for everyone else. This is garbage. I hate the software industry. Everyone sucks. What's next, you download a picture of a game? You pay for the promise, that you might, maybe, play the game? Wait hold on, that's called Early Access. Nevermind, Valve beat me to it. It's like the industry is almost trying to do everything wrong on purpose, and in the most immoral way possible. Everyone is trying to be stupid on purpose. I don't get it. I'm not made of money, I can't pay for the same thing over and over again, I already own it. I just don't get this concept, of paying for something, to the point where, you might have to invest 1000$, only so that someone can tell you, "bitch, you still don't own it, YOU OWN NOTHING". What the fuck is wrong with the law. How the fuck is this normal, or justified??? I FEEL LIKE I'VE INVESTED, WELL PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN, ENOUGH IMMAGINARY MONEY, TO CLAIM THAT YES, I DO ACTUALLY OWN THE THING I JUST WASTED THOUSANDS OF BUCKS ON. Nope, guess not. Guess I'll waste 10.000 more bucks on World of Warcraft subscriptions, for no reason at all. Because Blizzard is a struggling indie company, who cannot keep itself afloat, unless I, Mr. Money bags, help them out. Yep. That's the future. I LOVE THE FUTURE. DON'T YOU LOVE THE FUTURE, AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Fuck me it's even worse than I thought. And it'll get worse if this doesn't end now. It's now or never. This is what games will turn into. Every game is going to be like World of Warcraft, and like Photoshop. Can you immagine, paying 30.000$ for a car, and like, let's say that you pay 1000$ per month, just to have the guy at the dealership tell you, "nah, you don't own this, bitch, you pay forever lol". What the fuck. Man that's some extreme maintenance going on in there, I mean that's one hardcore checkbox you gotta pay for. Oh no, how could we possibly do otherwise, there is simply no other way. Nope. GIVE Me mONey to DO NOTHING - Every Game Company of the Future Good god it's not like I'm paying my house's rent. Or the land I've built on. And even then, at least I'm getting SOMETHING out of it. I mean I technically don't actually own this land, but, it's not the same with computer software. WE CAN'T COMPARE HOUSES TO COMPUTERS, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. I'm willing to say that, the land which I have to pay rent on, is well, an actual fucking service. Photoshop is... not. It would be like, paying for the same lamp, over and over again, why would you do that? And I do actually own the right to do, whatever the hell I want with this land. I want to plant 50 billion trees? GO FOR IT. I'm literally paying someone, I mean a computer, just to literally do this. Why am I still paying? The software's already done. How many times am I going to be paying, for the same old version, over and over again. I don't care about your "new" version, you are just finding an excuse to "update" your software, so that you can have an excuse to charge money for literally no reason. Hell, the company could be pretty much long gone, but they could be claiming that they got a bit update coming, in the next release, and here I am, paying like the sucker am I, for a release, which will never come. Corporations are just finding excuses to keep on existing for no reason. Literally paying employees to do a whole lot of nothing. All the expenses they have to pay for are made up, it's all artificial, it's all immaginary. What the hell is wrong with this industry? Again, they used to be fair, they used to allow you to just, keep your old stuff, and if you wanted to, you could pay for the new stuff (but most people aren't stupid, they knew they were getting ripped off anyway, so why pay in the first place?). Oh, "live service"? Now you can get ripped off in real time! IT'S NOT OPTIONAL EITHER. MORE LIKE YOUR ONLY OPTION IF YOU WANT A CAREER. Good god. Talk about lack of free will. Nothing stops Adobe from creating all the big updates, in a row, to just stock up until they have a whole bunch of them ready. They can just roll them out say, every 6 months, or every year, even though, they could technically release all of them at once, but they won't, because they suck. There's nothing you can do to stop that from happening either, I mean, how would you know? From your point of view, your money is well worth being used on the subscription, even though the updates you've been getting for the last two years, were pretty much completed in two months, and haven't changed since... This is actual fraud, in my mind. This is as close as it gets, to an example, of potential fraud. I mean, sure you do get your stuff eventually, but... they are tricking you on purpose. Maybe legally, it's okay, but morally, it's completelly wrong. Again pretend that these updates were already ready and complete, just to make it worse. It could happen and it might've happened already with some other monthly sub based software, or even games for that matter, just to sucker people into paying for a while longer. I would never want to be a lawyer, I would suck at it and it would most likely drive me insane. Laws suck. Everything is just so damn muddy. I pretty much ruined the weight of my argument, but maybe I brought up an important point, I'm not sure anymore. I think I'm just going insane, probably. Please prove all my points wrong, and please prove that I'm not insane thank you. I probably am. It's like when you think about, what happened, before the universe was born. It's just a general state of confusion for me right now, I don't know what to think anymore. Or what to believe anymore. Oh and Games as a Service is still a giant scam, that'll never change, I can be sure of that. Finding proof as to why, is really hard, but I know the truth, it's just hard to prove. I actually have proof, definitive proof that Games as a Service are a full blown scam. And here's my proof. https://web.archive.org/web/20060113075416/http://www.metaboli.co.uk/MetaGame/abonnement.jsp?abocode=GE What's this. An actual precedent? Let's look into it some more. Wait, wait, wait. You can "DOWNLOAD", AAND, "STREAM" THE GAMES??? Oh hold on, uhhh. Metaboli closed, and, well you see... you need the Metaboli player to play their games, which authenticates to their servers, which is needed to... play the games... so uh... no more games for you. See, "unlimited access" guys. It's "unlimited", oh no wait it's dead. Yeah that doesn't seem very unlimited to me, now doesn't it? Okay, Mr. Unlimited, where's my games at? https://bit-tech.net/reviews/gaming/pc/metaboli_gaming_on_demand/4/ It already happened, it keeps happening, it'll happen, again, and again. UNLIMITED *mostly limited once we shutdown our service "BUT IT'S ONLY UNLIMITED WHILE YOU ARE PAY-" THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT WORD MEANS Oh no, maybe spending the total value, of all the games, on the website, over the span of five years, was not such a good idea after all. Guess that's 1500€ down the drain. (It's... probably closer to 5000€, yikes - and it's not like, you can choose to just buy the game's individually if you want to, even after throwing that much money, you still own, exactly 0 games, wow, and this is 100% legal lol). WOOOOOOOOOOOW. Oh well, it's unlimited guys. Worth it! GUESS MY MONEY IS UNLIMITED. MY PATIENCE SURE ISN'T. THE WEB IS A WEB FULL OF INSANITY, AND WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT ANYWAY??? GET ME OUT HERE. - Hey should we give our players store credit, so that they can eventually, actually buy and own and download the games they want to keep, for, you know, forever? - Nah, just say that it's all unlimited, they are all a bunch of dumbasses anyway. WE ARE RICH BITCH, HEHEHEHE. Hey, you know, it's almost like, I could've taken all that money, and I could've used it to ACTUALLY BUY THE GAMES I WANTED TO BUY. WOW WHAT A NOVELm AND NEW CONCEPT, WHAT WILL THESE EARTH PEOPLE COME UP WITH NEXT???? I brain stormed all night, and I'm SOO HAPPY that I remembered about Metaboli. Ho hoooo, I DID NOT FORGET, I NEVER FORGET. Anyway, I'm just going to take a nap. Also, videogames suck. Good god, I don't want to think ever again, GAMES AS A SERVICE ARE ACTUAL FRAUD. Okay, I'm done with my existencial crysis for now. I guess finding that proof was easier than I thought. Esentially, over time, you pay far more money than you should and once the service shuts down, you are left with nothing. You are being sold with the promise of ownership. Or, you could just, skip the cloud of air, and actually buy the product you want. With the added value, at one point, the subscription service actually puts you at a huge loss. You would've been better off, had you just bought the games off directly. It seems counter intuitive, but it starts to make more sense, if you consider the idea that, paying once for 60 bucks, is cheaper than paying 10 bucks for two years. Game ownership, in the longterm, is actually cheaper, than a live service. With a live service, you pay forever, even though, you have no reason to. Even when the game is sitting on your shelf, you are paying for the privilege, to have it sitting there. Don't want to pay anymore? Burn your whole house down. Want your old house back? Sorry, you were paying for the service, you didn't own anything, remember? It's a literal scam, word by word. Fraud by definition. Actual trickery. You are lead to believe, a false truth. With game ownership? You own the actual fucking game. It's like two lemonade stands, one charges you, 0.50 cents to smell the lemonade, and you can get a sip, every 5 minutes. The other stand? You just buy the fucking lemonade for 10 bucks you cheap asshole. Anyway... Huh... Guess I should've brought this up sooner.... Oops.
  22. RaTcHeT302

    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I don't think most people bother writing documentation, seeing as, generally you would not be held accountable for, not having it in the first place. I feel like you sorta screw yourself over in the future, but, honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if some games were so messed up, to the point where they would rather just let the games themselves "die". Just so that they can have an excuse, to not work on them anymore (or with them, the source code, whatever). Either that, or it has something to do with the fact that, most people who work on videogames, treat it like any other job, to them it doesn't matter if it all falls apart by the end, as long as they get their paycheck. People who work on videogames are generally just your average normal joe, not exactly the most passionate people, as far as things go. Expecting your average game developer to do the right thing is a bit of a long shot, and it's not a gamble I would bet on. Documentation in most cases is going to be lacking, seeing as, most people don't really give a shit, once they are done on that game . That's just another job to them, not their problem anymore. It's the next poor sod who gets hired, that has to deal with that mess instead.
  23. RaTcHeT302

    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    @Ross Scott Sorry for the triple posting, I edited my posts out a lot, as I kept coming up with things to add. I hope what I said makes you a bit more optimistic about the future of games, I do honestly believe, that this is a solvable problem, by law, and we do have actual precedents, which have been set beforehand. I'm willing to say, that most arena shooters, can be used as clear examples, and hell, we can use Quake 2, as an example, of the potential human innovation, we would be denying, to the whole world, if we just deleted the game away, which proves that Games as a Service is complete horseshit, and it shows what not killing games, actually does. But, I think this wouldn't hold in court, sadly. I think we should be optimistic either way. Just gotta keep chipping at it. We'll end up with no games otherwise. I don't want the future to be like OnLive. I wasn't very optimistic at first, but I've changed my mind, I think it can be done.
  24. RaTcHeT302

    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    There could be a conflict of interest, if there's no proper agreement, with the business partner, or with the publisher, otherwise, should be perfectly legal. Even for personal use, it should be fine, from what I understood. For the better approach, they wouldn't turn off the encryption, but they could give you the encryption formula, something like this. This is from Evil Genius by the way. From the programming side of things, that's what "turning off the encryption" means pretty much, they could give you some pseudo code (fake source code, not real, more math like, like a math formula), in order to make your own decryptor tool. They wouldn't even need to share the actual source code. They can totally help us out though. Just throw us a hint or a bone, people can do the rest. 100% Legal. Sorta cheating a bit, but honestly, after your game is a decade old? Yeah nobody is going to care. You can do this yourself eventually anyway, it would just speed up the process if they just told you, what you had to do, nothing more. It's legal because, you still have to do all the hard work by yourself, technically. Games have no reason to die, never had. People are just being lazy for no reason. This can be solved, and it should actively be fought. We should avoid getting to this stage in the first place, but, we are desperate, this would do okay. Not great, but, better than nothing.
  25. RaTcHeT302

    "Games as a service" is fraud.

    I find it appalling that, a game like Quake 3, is still fully functional. It set a precedent already, which I find even more bullshit, all parts of the game work 100%. If I wanted to play Quake 3, or Unreal Tournament 2004, I could, right now, even 100 years down the line. The Crew though? In a decade, that game is only going to be nothing more than just another fading memory. It doesn't have to be this way, and I hate it. Also EULAs hold no value in the EU, best I can tell. And by law your product should work for at least two years (the product you agreed to, with all the features you were promised to have access to, exactly the way it was, when you bought it). Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a law person, I'm mostly going at it from the emotional, moral, logical side of things. I think there has to be a more agressive angle which can be taken. I just cannot believe, that there's no legal angle, this can be approached at. At least in Europe, there has to be something. Europe is a huge market, it would affect them. Even giants like EA and Ubisoft would be affected, everywhere. Look at what GDPR did, Europe can and has a major impact, we shouldn't understimate their power.
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