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Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere. Gordon felt guilty and John started crying a pond. Just then an antelope crashed through to the surface from the land called "Under the Surface". All of a sudden there was a huge rift and Asahina disappeared. Someone said something about the Combine attacking John Freeman by kidnapping Asahina, John Freeman frowned and said, "Avast!" He then got his grappling hook stuck in an asshole of a vortigant who said,

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere. Gordon felt guilty and John started crying a pond. Just then an antelope crashed through to the surface from the land called "Under the Surface". All of a sudden there was a huge rift and Asahina disappeared. Someone said something about the Combine attacking John Freeman by kidnapping Asahina, John Freeman frowned and said, "Avast!" He then got his grappling hook

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere. Gordon felt guilty and John started crying a pond. Just then an antelope crashed through to the surface from the land called "Under the Surface". All of a sudden there was a huge rift and Asahina disappeared. Someone said something about the Combine attacking John Freeman by kidnapping Asahina, John Freeman frowned and said, "Avast!"

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere. Gordon felt guilty and John started crying a pond. Just then an antelope crashed through to the surface from the land called "Under the Surface". All of a sudden there was a huge rift and Asahina disappeared. Someone said something about the Combine attacking John Freeman by kidnapping Asahina

I didn't realize you hadn't played it yet. You're in for a real treat, especially if you get the DLC as well.

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere. Gordon felt guilty and John started crying a pond. Just then an antelope crashed through

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees that were angry and shooting lazoooors!" Captain Tightpants said "UGH BOOGA BIM" and Gordon Freeman replied "Ma lazoooor!" and everything exploded, headcrab zombie Icing and cake was seriously friggin' everywhere

But we're both using scientific information about emryos to support our claims. The question is whether or not there is a universal morality, in spite of differing opinions. I believe there is. I know, right? Someone's got a serious problem with him, and for the life of me I can't figure out why.

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today, had an epiphany "Kaylee was right next to bees

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts! Then Captain Tightpants, surprisingly pantless today,

Looked up some clips of Hidden: Source on youtube after reading this. It looks pretty damn fun. Not sure how fair it is for the visible side, but the ability to climb walls and manipulate bodies really allows you to get creative with the hunt when you're hidden. It's like hide and seek's revenge.

(I see "John Freeman" and I can't help but think of SK's amazing fanfics) Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung and use wepon against zombie ghosts!

"And from what I've heard, and what Wikipedia tells me, Obsidian Entertainment is actually founded by most of the guys from Black Isle, meaning that Fallout New Vegas is actually made by the guys who invented the franchise to begin with. If that is not a stamp of quality, then I don't know what is." Yeah, for the most part it's the same group of developers. Bethesda does have a way with games, to be sure, but the stuff that made Fallout 3 so great is not only present in New Vegas, but improved. They seem focused heavily on telling us a great story in NV, and the DLCs seem to be continuing that trend.

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because he didn't have the money to get a crowbar, instead buying teletubbies which caused Gordon to jump on top of lung

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife! John Freeman fucked Gordon up because

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie icing, and she was pissed at God for not making her beautiful enough for him, instead he chose Jessica, who was John Freeman's wife!

They didn't develope it directly, but it pretty much uses the same format as Fallout 3. If you liked F3, you'll probably like New Vegas. Obsidian did an amazing job with it, and many of those developers worked on Fallout and Fallout 2. Don't let Bethesda's minimal involvement in the project put you off.

Agreed. Because that involves limiting who can create it and charging for it. No, they’re not alike. You’re not defending yourself if you kill something that cannot kill you, something that is not trying to kill you. This is a nice summation of why I think egoism (as I've come to understand it) is wrong. Everyone has the right to healthcare. This goes back to why corporations should not be able to patent medicine. If you can make medicine and deliberately withhold it from people, resulting in their deaths, that is morally wrong. This is a world of limited resources, as I said. It is irresponsible and damaging for us all to look out only for our own interests and hoard everything we have without sharing. We have a moral obligation to help each other out, because we are all in these situations together. The only way the egoist view of rights is not damaging to the world and its populace is if people choose to help others out of the goodness of their own hearts in at least some capacity. Egoism relies on this possibility, and ironically this forbids everyone from following it. I know egoism doesn’t actually say any of these things, I see the implications as inescapable. Egoism in the way you’ve presented it is quite ironic in that it ultimately does exactly the opposite of what it’s supposed to do and ignores the basic value of the individual human being, assigning them a right to live based on whether or not they’re capable of earning money for themselves. That is what seems morally wrong to me. And again, this comparison is unsound because an acorn is a potential oak tree that has not been planted. A fetus is a growing human being that has already implanted. If you want to compare the acorn to something, it would have to be the zygote. I see that once again your definition of rights is not only inaccurate, but also incomplete. If you can use that definition of rights to justify saying that something that cannot “trade” does not have the right to live, then it’s time to rethink your definition of the word. Furthermore, if a fetus does not take any course of action, you cannot respond to it in “self-defense” because there’s no action to defend against. You’ve spent this entire thread dictating what has them. That seems pretty subjectivist to me. Yes, saying that rational human beings need to be rational in order to survive and therefore are the only ones who have rights is you dictating what has rights and what doesn’t. Every living thing has moral rights. As I’ve said, they simply extend in different lengths depending on the capacity of each living thing. So by your definition, babies don’t have the right to live. They can’t think and they can’t own property. They survive because others care for them. And that is necessary for every stage of life. Humans survive by thinking, by claiming land and property, but they also have to survive by looking out for each other, helping each other out, doing things for others when they can’t do them themselves. We are all connected, regardless of what motives or benefits we perceive in being connected. Those are inescapable conditions of our survival, no matter how much you might not like to admit it. No, it’s the old “The point you just made applies greatly to the view of rights you’ve established in this thread” argument. And it’s not that clever, just the result of observation. That is a repetition of what I’ve been doing, but okay: Nature does not dictate that only humans have rights. To say that you have the right, for instance, to torture an animal for no reason is false. Yet according to your view of rights, the government has no right to prevent it, because that would be an initiation of force. Against a man torturing another living thing. Honestly I’m amazed I even have to explain why there’s something wrong with this line of reasoning. The view that only rational human beings have any rights at all is so contrary to the way the world is it’s almost funny. Your view of rights says that we actually do have a right to basically abuse the very things we depend on for our survival, or rather, none of those things have the right to be spared the abuse. You say the government shouldn’t dictate how corporations, for instance, should conduct themselves, yet corporations pollute on a regular basis, hurting everyone. Your view of rights requires an ability to prevent oneself from affecting the world around it that, quite frankly, humans do not possess. Because you’ve spent this thread trying to say that rights only extend to rational human beings as if they are capable of sustaining themselves without the aid of other living things around them, as if they don’t impact the world around them, and as if they don’t consume finite resources from the world around them. Sorry, but taxes are not morally wrong. As you said, the government is basically an extension of the people, for the people, and by the people. Ideally we establish it as a structure with the specific purpose not of profit, but of maintaining the safety and well being of the citizens who establish and work for it. Therefore it stands that we also need to fund such an organization via taxes that are established fairly and again, by the people. If one lives on American soil, then they pay taxes to the American government, and the benefits of doing so come back to the people who paid the taxes. Unless the government misuses the money in frighteningly stupid ways (which they do, but this is the fault of the individuals who set those policies, not a fault with the idea itself) If someone rented out a room in a building you owned, wouldn’t they owe you rent? And yet newborn babies survive without that ability, or any of the others you claim are necessary to survive. In fact, your version of what our basic survival needs are is only truly accurate if we make the conscious decision to only look out for ourselves and not help others. Again, I do not see how this is not a subjectivist view. From people who use their money to exercise more power than they’re entitled to and screw over other people, you can’t forget that last part. Legally a corporation is a person, only without all those burdensome things like conscience and morality. They still pollute, they still mistreat overseas laborers, they still corrupt, yet many of them continue to thrive while doing so. Again, I’ve explained why this take on it is dead wrong like four other times, but this is an especially serious one so I’ll go ahead and repeat it. Creating jobs that underpay, place employees in substandard and unsafe conditions, force children to work long ours, and pay them squat for the work they put in is never morally right, even if there wasn’t a job there before, it is still not morally right. It is still taking advantage of a desperate situation. Even if the corporation is paying them what the market demands (which is arguable), they’re still harming them, for the reasons I explained earlier. Hence why the system we have now is kinda broken. You also defended their right to exploit the desperate enough to make it seem as though they’re doing them some kind of favor by paying them insufficiently in a terrible work environment. The egoist view does not dictate this as wrong, which is why I say it is flawed, because there is nothing morally right about the situation I described. No, I mean extremes. Calling the type of situation I’ve described with overseas laborers “mutually beneficial” when it is only truly beneficial for the corporation is simply false. Is something more than nothing? Yes, but factor in the effects it has on these people working in these environments barely making enough to survive. That is not beneficial. A slightly less-crap situation is still a crap situation, and it is well within the corporations’ power to not underpay, to make sure that their workers are taken care of, but in the situations I’m describing they don’t, because they know they can get away with it. I can see no justification for saying this is morally right. Yes, the individual is important, and so are the individuals around that individual. It is morally right to help others, and no less right if you’re taking a personal hit by doing so. We can’t all only do things that benefit ourselves in some way or another, self-sacrifice is necessary for survival. It’s like Aristotle’s view about the mean, the idea that true morality falls between extremes of excess and deficiency. In this case, the two extremes being total selfishness, always only looking out for our own interests, and selflessness to the extreme that we lose our individuality and merely see ourselves as sacrificial pawns. We cannot deny ourselves or our individual value, nor can we deny others or their individual value that goes beyond how they can benefit us. In the literal sense of the word, no it is not. In the most extreme cases it is damaging to the individual, but that’s just what it is, the extreme. You’re right, I’m not implying that all life has the same value. I’m saying that all life has value. It isn’t all the same, but it is there, nonetheless. To say that we are the only form of life that has rights denies the basic value that all living things have, both to us and to the world itself. I keep seeing this mentioned, that a baby and a fetus shouldn’t be considered alike. I never said they should. I said they were both stages of the living, developing human being, and that their most basic right to live was the same, in spite of the multitude of metaphysical differences. There is nothing insane about that idea. So to round this out, I agree with you that it would be morally wrong for the government or the individual to force us to look out for each other, to share, and to help each other out (though I do believe that a government should protect life, which I think we also agree on, though not on the definition of “life” itself). Where we seem to disagree, however (and please correct me if I'm wrong about us disagreeing here), is that I also think it is morally right and necessary that we do look out for each other, share, and help, even on occasions where there is no direct benefit to us. And really, to say that an act of kindness or self-sacrifice will definitely have no benefit at any point in our lives requires a level of foresight that humans are not capable of.

So on the off-chance you're a Fallout: New Vegas fan and haven't heard, the second peice of downloadable content, Honest Hearts, comes out on the 17th. This long-awaited release will be followed closely by Old World Blues in June and Lonesome Road in July. If Dead Money was any indicator, these are going to be some very well done expansions with pretty decent stories. Also liking the overarching story they'll have going. Trailer for Honest Hearts:

Asahina, who is Gordon's former Girlfriend, Saw Gordon with his brother John, eating space brownies with headcrab zombie

One day God gazed upon the people of Earth who were starting to play Civilization while eating popcorn. He gleefully said "DELETE THIS THREAD!" and then suddenly they did died.Their ghosts yelled all night long and that noise brought forth the Klingon Empire."DAMMIT GODZILLA'S FINGERING US" shouted the anthropomorphic mole people who were furries, but had a huge party in the house of Machinima, when Ross Scott shouted out loud "LEAVE ME ALONE!" His arms waving and hit the "Self Destruct" button. All of Machinima exploded in a thermonuclear explosion. Meanwhile coke ran free through the river, causing everyone to screw burning Machinima, meanwhile in Canada a television manufacturer ruled by Osama's son, a young fire breathing boy, who farted loudly that blew his brain. Suddenly the followers of Gordon Freeman began to sang very stupid songs about whales. Angered, he yelled "I'm Ishmael bitch", so everyone in the 'verse before this one made prostheletyzing illegal. Tacoman came by and dropped a - I woke up! Right after the tornado hit Minnesota, God said he just can not live without doughnuts. Tacoman came by briefly and then all dougnuts begun raining down from a flotating pig made of bacon. Suddenly Tacoman said "LET MY PEOPLE WORSHIP HARUHI SUZUMIYA!" They asked why, and imploded instantly. Tacoman survived though

One day God gazed upon the people of Earth who were starting to play Civilization while eating popcorn. He gleefully said "DELETE THIS THREAD!" and then suddenly they did died.Their ghosts yelled all night long and that noise brought forth the Klingon Empire."DAMMIT GODZILLA'S FINGERING US" shouted the anthropomorphic mole people who were furries, but had a huge party in the house of Machinima, when Ross Scott shouted out loud "LEAVE ME ALONE!" His arms waving and hit the "Self Destruct" button. All of Machinima exploded in a thermonuclear explosion. Meanwhile coke ran free through the river, causing everyone to screw burning Machinima, meanwhile in Canada a television manufacturer ruled by Osama's son, a young fire breathing boy, who farted loudly that blew his brain. Suddenly the followers of Gordon Freeman began to sang very stupid songs about whales. Angered, he yelled "I'm Ishmael bitch", so everyone in the 'verse before this one made prostheletyzing illegal. Tacoman came by and dropped a - I woke up! Right after the tornado hit Minnesota, God said he just can not live without doughnuts. Tacoman came by briefly and then all dougnuts begun raining down from a flotating pig made of bacon. Suddenly Tacoman said "LET MY PEOPLE WORSHIP HARUHI SUZUMIYA!" They asked why,

I've seen a lot of improvements to multiplayer gaming, but I don't see how it has come at the cost of single player.

One day God gazed upon the people of Earth who were starting to play Civilization while eating popcorn. He gleefully said "DELETE THIS THREAD!" and then suddenly they did died.Their ghosts yelled all night long and that noise brought forth the Klingon Empire."DAMMIT GODZILLA'S FINGERING US" shouted the anthropomorphic mole people who were furries, but had a huge party in the house of Machinima, when Ross Scott shouted out loud "LEAVE ME ALONE!" His arms waving and hit the "Self Destruct" button. All of Machinima exploded in a thermonuclear explosion. Meanwhile coke ran free through the river, causing everyone to screw burning Machinima, meanwhile in Canada a television manufacturer ruled by Osama's son, a young fire breathing boy, who farted loudly that blew his brain. Suddenly the followers of Gordon Freeman began to sang very stupid songs about whales. Angered, he yelled "I'm Ishmael bitch", so everyone in the 'verse before this one made prostheletyzing illegal. Tacoman came by and dropped a - I woke up! Right after the tornado hit Minnesota, God said he just can not live without doughnuts. Tacoman came by Sorry, couldn't resist. Won't become a recurring thing, I promise XD

Happy belated, dude. I wish I could offer some words of encouragement on the shootout, but I've never seen one either...