danielsangeo

Yeah, you said that already. It's still wrong. Those are all stages of a living human being, the difference being what moral rights a person has at each of those stages. I argue that a person's basic right to live exists from the moment the person itself does. Your child = adult response and your adult = corpse response don't contradict that idea at all. Wait, so, the "right to life" is different from "moral rights"? Left to their own devices, a fertilized egg (a "baby"?) will, the majority of the time, never even implant and are evacuated soon afterwards. Does that mean that this is a death in the family? How about if the woman takes the "morning after" pill and doesn't allow it to implant? Is she a murderer? Also, contraception. The sperm can't reach the egg. Without that kind of interference, one of those sperm will fertilize the egg and create a "baby"....so contraception is now murder. As are nocturnal emissions and periods. This is the logic I see here. Or the lack of it.

Well, if a fetus is a baby, a child is an adult.

"This is utterly illogical. A living being cannot be compared to a dead one." A potential human being cannot be compared with an actual human being. But, let's set that aside for a moment. Children are human beings, right? Adults are human beings, correct? Without interference, a child will eventually become an adult, yes? Therefore, having sex with a child is the same thing as having sex with an adult. Pedophilia is legalized! Because children are adults. Right?

"I have your brain scanned and permanently backed up in case something terrible happens to you... which it's just about to. Don't believe me? Here. I'll put you on. [Hello!] That's you! That's how dumb you sound! You've been wrong about every single thing you've ever done, including this thing. You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a full-time employee. Where did your life go so wrong?"

Exactly. Also, if we don't interfere, a child will grow up to be an adult. Therefore, all children are adults.

But, if we do not interfere, eventually a human being will become a corpse. Therefore, we're all corpses? Having sex with your sweetheart is now necrophilia?

So, would someone that believes in the theories of gravity and thermodynamics be a gravitationist or thermodynamicist? Oh, by the way, not just so-called "evolutionists" believe that we are members of Primates.

Wait, what?

We are still classified as great apes. Great apes are hominidae with four extent genera: chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and.....humans.

Actually, since human beings are classified as apes (great apes, specifically, or members of the Primates order), then you are a son or daughter of an ape.

Well, there is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

Not in mine, but in the words of the teachers in 99.9% of the public schools in America. If you don't even know what "evolution" is, how do you know what "99.9% of public schools in America" teach? Then perhaps you need to know what you're talking about. And how often do they actually use those? I personally know of the methods, but have yet to see anyone use them for fossil dating. This is actually an irrelevant point, but they use all of them all the time. It's irrelevant because dating is not at issue with whether things actually do evolve or not. Are you trying to miss the meaning of what I post? The "biblical flood" that many refer to is a flood that COVERED THE ENTIRE PLANET....all the way up past the tops of the tallest mountains. If you're simply referring to regional floods, then those happen all the time and are quite natural. Also, floods of any kind are irrelevant to whether evolution happens or not. So, let's set aside dating methods and floods and just talk about evolution. If you want to see a transitional organism, just look in the mirror.

For the "end of the worlders", that date you got in your head for the end of the world? Can I enter into a legally-binding contract with you stating that, effective the day after this date, that I then own your stuff, whether it's cars, money in the bank, house, etc?

What? In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya and your use of the word "evolution": "I do not think it means what you think it means." So, define 'evolution'. In your own words. And what other methods are those? The rock surrounding the fossils is dated by the fossils in said rock, so you can't use that one... Sure. Here's an abridged list: Uranium-lead Samarium-neodymium Potassium-argon Rubidium-strontium Uranium-thorium Fission track Chlorine-36 Argon-argon Iodine-xenon Lead-lead And so on. If you take the biblical flood as a literal story... But for most people in the past: world = everything they knew. (usually that meant about as far as they could see from the top of the nearest Date tree) Ah, I see. So, any flood is Biblical.

So every generation is a different species? If not, then how does this prove evolution? Evolution != Speciation Define your terms. Where/when/how was it debunked? There have been several independent studies broadcast on the Discovery and History channels, and there was something in Popular Science about the inaccuracies of C14 dating. (not inaccurate by a few days or even months, but by a varying percentage as high as 99% inaccurate) The mere fact that carbon dating isn't the ONLY form of dating shows that your complaint is debunked. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/blacksea/ So. No evidence of the Biblical flood.

My evidence is in the post you quoted. If you're not exactly the same as your parents, then that's evolution. Your complaint about carbon dating has been summarily debunked by thousands of scientists. Carbon dating is only one of MANY methods of radiometic dating. What evidence do you have of the Biblical flood?

I have provided evidence. Look at my post. Also, can you repeat for me your evidence? There's so much that has been posted here that I don't even know where to begin. Can you provide me with a beginning?

There are literal truckloads of evidence for evolution but not a single shred of evidence for creationism. Want evidence for evolution? Look in a mirror. Then look at your parents. Are you exactly the same as them? No? Then that "proves" evolution. Creationism should not be taught as a science. Because it is not a science.

First I was like: The Tunnel is released! Then I was like: Then I was all: Then, I: Then I went all: Suddenly I was: Then I was: Then I was all: And then, at the end, I was all: "FFFUUU--!" Must...have...more.... Great job, Ross! It's so great.

I particularly enjoyed "Oil's Well". Mike was getting really serious for a while, then Dave comes in with a humorous quip about the Seven Hour War and just shatters everything. I haven't laughed so hard in my entire life.

I might not post here that much, but that doesn't mean I'm not active in the Black Mesa community nor that I don't follow Ross Scott's work.

I am a regular poster to the Black Mesa forums and can definitively say that the following is true: The mod is being worked on and it is almost done. It is not dead. The developers are working hard on the mod every day. There have been no Twitter updates because they abandoned Twitter but the website front-page has not been updated to reflect this. The website will be updated when the mod is released. The mod will be out "when it's done". The developers want Black Mesa released as much as the fans want it released. If not more. Asking for updates/release dates/media won't work. For more information on the Black Mesa mod, please read the Wiki, the FAQ, and peruse the forums. Some ground rules on the forum: Please search the forums before posting questions. Most questions have already been answered many times and many people don't like re-answering the same questions over and over. And the forums are a bit of the "wild west" feeling and some aren't too mature so, please, before asking questions that have already been answered, please search. Thank you.

Some of my favorite quotes: Scientist: "Hello." Freeman: "Heeeeeeyyyyyyy....what a minute, I don't know you. Don't confuse me." Freeman: "Wait a minute. Did I see what I think I did? Yep, I sure did. Newton's formula for gravitational force. Having trouble remembering that one, guys? What is this, are we back in high school now? My department's working on quantum displacement. Just what the hell are you guys doing? Jerking around in lab coats from the looks of things! I just can't believe it. Those monkeys are having trouble learning about gravity. Whereas I can recite the quantum chromodynamic gauge invariant Lagrangian in my sleep! There is no justice... am I hearing things? TURN DOWN THE MUSIC, YOU FREAKING BASSHEADS! IT SOUNDS LIKE A STRIP CLUB IN HERE! GOD DAMN! JUST GET SOME DANCING GIRLS IN CAGES, WHY DON'T YA!?! GOOD LORD! Programmers! Who knows what they're up to!" Freeman: "Oh, oh god! What, what do I do? ... This is a bad experiment! We are BAD people! Why did we usher forth the Green Apocalypse?!" Scientist 1: "I'll stay here." Freeman: "You do that! God, you two are creeping me out. 'Come play with us, Gordon. Forever... and ever... and ever...'" Scientist 2: "Do you know who ate all the doughnuts?" Freeman: "The doughnu--? No! I've got more important things on my mind!" Freeman: "You know, I'm an expert on electricity, on the atomic level, anyway, and this, to me, looks like the power's on." Freeman: "This sounds like a job for Ambassador Pineapple." Freeman: "What the hell is that? It looks like a prison guard tower. I don't get it. This place makes no sense. [underwater mumbling]it's unconstitutional[underwater mumbling]"