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ROSS’S GAME DUNGEON: SONIC HEROES

New Game Dungeon! This took way, way longer than it was supposed to. The original plan was to have this be under 20 minutes released last month. Instead, the game hit me pretty hard so I just didn’t want to leave so much out. Anyway, it’s finally done and I’m pretty happy with it, though I’m really going to have to go back to shorter episodes for a while. I think I figured out the source of some of my problems in the game since I made it, but not all of them.

On another note, I discovered a bug in Premiere hours ago, where it simply interpreted FRAPS footage improperly. It actually caused stalled frames and the timing to change. This came as a bit of a shock as I didn’t notice it until very late in the process. Re-encoding into another lossless codec solved the problem, but I wasn’t going to do that for 1.5TB of footage (the gameplay was recorded losslessly) without delaying the video another day at least. I solved the most egregious problems, but it’s possible there are some small problems left in there that I missed. I can release one of the problematic clips for testing if people are interested, though I should see if I can chop it without re-encoding as it’s about 30GB on its own. For anyone critical of fraps, feel free to recommend software for recording DirectX 5-8 content with hardware antialiasing enabled (it may not behave how you think).

Freeman’s Mind next! Should come much faster!

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Oh yeah, another comment: a lot of the "cult of Sonic" weirdness is probably thanks to Ken Penders' run on the Archie Comic's Sonic the Hedgehog comic series, which was also the basis for the Saturday morning cartoon series. It's funny you mentioned not knowing "Sonic's cousin," since the comics gave Knuckles a huge family tree--Penders also really likes Knuckles and the echidnas, for some reason.

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9 hours ago, RocketDude said:

Oh yeah, another comment: a lot of the "cult of Sonic" weirdness is probably thanks to Ken Penders' run on the Archie Comic's Sonic the Hedgehog comic series, which was also the basis for the Saturday morning cartoon series. It's funny you mentioned not knowing "Sonic's cousin," since the comics gave Knuckles a huge family tree--Penders also really likes Knuckles and the echidnas, for some reason.

1. The SatAM cartoon came first; albeit if I recall correctly, the Archie Sonic comics and SatAM were developed concurrently with one another. (Also, SatAM was initially the only cartoon DIC was to produce of Sonic, until ABC shenanigans somewhat forced them to split their cartoon into SatAM and AoStH.) Also, Penders didn't write for the Archie Sonic comics until much later on in it's early life.
2. Most of the Sonic Cult actually hates and rejects Ken Penders, and for good reason: He's a gross piece of shit, and an infamous scumfuck. And this is just scratching the surface of the iceburg that is Penders, believe you me.

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12 hours ago, RaTcHeT302 said:

LUL YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY CALLING IT THE SONIC CULT

I personally think it's a fun way to have a laugh at how at times it can feel like one. Especially with how vocal some of the shall we say... village idiots can be.

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13 hours ago, SomethingOther said:

1. The SatAM cartoon came first; albeit if I recall correctly, the Archie Sonic comics and SatAM were developed concurrently with one another. (Also, SatAM was initially the only cartoon DIC was to produce of Sonic, until ABC shenanigans somewhat forced them to split their cartoon into SatAM and AoStH.) Also, Penders didn't write for the Archie Sonic comics until much later on in it's early life.
2. Most of the Sonic Cult actually hates and rejects Ken Penders, and for good reason: He's a gross piece of shit, and an infamous scumfuck. And this is just scratching the surface of the iceburg that is Penders, believe you me.

 

Did not know that first bit. By "cult of Sonic," I was kind of referring to the weird fanart-y side, though maybe it arose independently of Penders' weirdness.

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On 9/24/2020 at 3:47 PM, Steve the Pocket said:

I doubt any platform holder goes around strongarming publishers into porting specific games to their platform with threats to withhold certification on other games.

Apple sort of tries to do that right now.

Don't insult me. I have trained professionals to do that.

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I suppose there is a sort of sense in that. I.e., "if you don't work with us now, don't be surprised if we don't want to work with you later." Still a bit silly, but it probably discourages publishers taking rain checks on platforms while also potentially generating some sales for the platform owner.

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On 9/23/2020 at 3:23 PM, RaTcHeT302 said:

those loading times are not worth it, plus the game is a god damn eye sore, somehow sonic heroes looks BETTER than a "next gen" game

 

sonic 2006 is not worth it

I cant agree with you.  Sonic heroes has one of worst visual styles and cinematics. Ingame animations are great though. You can fix sonic 06 problems with mods and emulation. Also a genious dude ChaosX currently remaking sonic 06 on unity for pc. Check it out if you have any interest, maybe it can prove my opinion on sonic 06.

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Oh yeah, the modding scene for 06 is starting to boom which is great. I saw one person trying to port some levels from Ninjabread Man to it for some reason. It's neat that you can do it, but sometimes I wonder if he thinks if he should do it.

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A few weeks past, and I still find it crazy Ross covered a game I played as a young kid!

Some pointers regarding the game: Sonic Heroes followed the trend of bad PC ports in the early to mid 2000's, and while it isn't unplayable, the hit detection was noticeably worse in spots, and the controls are a bit more slippery - so all that's to say it isn't entirely the game, isn't entirely Ross, it's partly the mediocre PC port.

A few other games that suffered from this: Sonic Adventure, Splinter Cell, Sega GT, Crazy Taxi, GTA 4, Halo and Halo 2.

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4 minutes ago, Lambda Core said:

A few weeks past, and I still find it crazy Ross covered a game I played as a young kid!

That's how I felt when I saw the first Tyrian2k video 🤩

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5 hours ago, kerdios said:

That's how I felt when I saw the first Tyrian2k video 🤩

I take it you're a fair few years older than I am then! I grew up with the Gamecube, so this was really crazy for me to see lol

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11 minutes ago, Lambda Core said:

I take it you're a fair few years older than I am then! I grew up with the Gamecube, so this was really crazy for me to see lol

yo i grew up on the playstation 2 \ playstation 1 and early 2005 pc games (age of mythology, black & white 2, the i of the dragon, team fortress 2, unreal 2004, a bunch else i can't recall atm)

 

you got any gamecube suggestions? i can emulate stuff nowdays which is neat as hell

i remember when we told other kids, "NO YOU CAN'T PLAY GRAN TURISMO 3 ON PC" and now i feel dumb lol

 

BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY GRAN TURISMO 3 ON PC

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3 hours ago, RaTcHeT302 said:

yo i grew up on the playstation 2 \ playstation 1 and early 2005 pc games (age of mythology, black & white 2, the i of the dragon, team fortress 2, unreal 2004, a bunch else i can't recall atm)

 

you got any gamecube suggestions? i can emulate stuff nowdays which is neat as hell

i remember when we told other kids, "NO YOU CAN'T PLAY GRAN TURISMO 3 ON PC" and now i feel dumb lol

 

BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY GRAN TURISMO 3 ON PC

 

Super Mario Sunshine is the obvious pick, it's the main 3D mario of the era, also one of the better 3D Mario games! But in addition I'd recommend Super Monkey Ball 2, Sonic Adventure 2, Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door, Battle for Bikini Bottom (surprisingly good licensed game!), Puyo Pop Fever, Chibi Robo, Wind Waker and if you want a crazier version of the first Metal Gear, the Twin Snakes is a solid pick!

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2 minutes ago, Lambda Core said:

Super Mario Sunshine is the obvious pick, it's the main 3D mario of the era, also one of the better 3D Mario games! But in addition I'd recommend Super Monkey Ball 2, Sonic Adventure 2, Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door, Battle for Bikini Bottom (surprisingly good licensed game!), Puyo Pop Fever, Chibi Robo, Wind Waker and if you want a crazier version of the first Metal Gear, the Twin Snakes is a solid pick!

i actually checked out most of these already and i ended up hating them, they are not my thing at all, the only ones i haven't checked yet are chibi robo and that spongebob game, but i don't really like THQ tie in games, they were mostly shovelware from my own experience

 

i want to try sunshine again but i don't know, i just find the setting to be really boring, it just doesn't grab me, and i grew up with ratchet & clank \ jak and daxter as far as third person adventure games go, so they sorta set a certain bar for me, as far as what music i like, and what style of gameplay i enjoy from such games, i hate the "collect the orbs" part from jak & daxter though, it took me forever to beat that game since i didn't play that much of it to be honest

 

wind waker looked nice graphically but, i dunno i just found myself being really bored with it, i gave up at some stone fortress or something

 

paper mario just didn't grab me at all, and twin snakes just, i dunno it had a billion cutscenes and i just dropped it, i played puyo puyo tetris on PC so i sorta feel like i got my fix already, but i don't feel like playing more of that game to be honest

 

sonic adventure looks a bit too dated for me, and if anything i want to check out that sonic unleashed game on ps3 more than anything, it's the only sonic game i'm interested in checking out, i've only played sonic heroes (hated it) and sonic generations (found it a bit boring, might try it again)

 

i wish i had someone to play that gauntlet game with, like i'd kill to have a local co op session, i'm sure we'd have a blast, but i don't have anybody to do that, and playing online games feels so impersonal to me, and it just isn't as fun, like you can't banter or anything at all, people are so stuck up, it's boring as hell

 

anyway i dunno the mario games never grabbed me at all, i'm just not a fan of that music style, i mean this music really spoiled my tastes, going from this to mario, makes me feel like i'm listening to an ultra generic games soundtrack, it's not my thing much

 

 

this series spoiled me and i'm pretty sure it permanently altered my music tastes for LIFE

 

i mean this is the sorta music i listend to when MTV was a thing

 

so for me going to something like this, after listening to that sorta music, just kinda grates my ears if anything, i can't stand this music at all for some reason, it just annoys me for some reason xD

 

like i swear i feel like i should like this but, it just annoys me for some reason, and i'd rather turn the music off, i don't know why i'm like this, i'm not normal LOL

 

 

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It's definitely up to personal taste, I've loved all of these games, but if they're not your cup of tea, they're not your cup of tea. It sets the scene for most of the Gamecube library, so if none of them suit your fancy, I wouldn't bother too much? I kinda have the opposite effect with the PS2, I never had that growing up so the games don't really interest me too much. Same thing with FPS games, too! Halo was probably the worst example for me, I fell in love with the first three titles in that series, but anything after Bungie's time with it just doesn't capture the same magic unfortunately - feeling more like modern shooters I had zero interest in.

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5 minutes ago, Lambda Core said:

It's definitely up to personal taste, I've loved all of these games, but if they're not your cup of tea, they're not your cup of tea. It sets the scene for most of the Gamecube library, so if none of them suit your fancy, I wouldn't bother too much? I kinda have the opposite effect with the PS2, I never had that growing up so the games don't really interest me too much. Same thing with FPS games, too! Halo was probably the worst example for me, I fell in love with the first three titles in that series, but anything after Bungie's time with it just doesn't capture the same magic unfortunately - feeling more like modern shooters I had zero interest in.

i actually hated halo 1 and i never got past the start area in halo 2 xD

 

did you ever play oni tho? it's a bungie game, not very well known (it's bad but some of the music is nice)

wish we had more games where you play as a cool martial arts cop tho, it's a neat concept

 

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if anything i acually enjoyed those dumb call of duty games, i enjoyed call of duty mw3, ww2, advanced warfare and infinite warfare

 

THIS SHIT WAS SO SIIICK, OH MY GOD THIS SCENE WAS SO FUCKING COOOOL

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THIS PART WITH THE GIANT SPACE SHIPS WAS FUCKING AWESOME

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3 hours ago, RaTcHeT302 said:

i actually hated halo 1 and i never got past the start area in halo 2 xD

 

did you ever play oni tho? it's a bungie game, not very well known (it's bad but some of the music is nice)

wish we had more games where you play as a cool martial arts cop tho, it's a neat concept

 

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if anything i acually enjoyed those dumb call of duty games, i enjoyed call of duty mw3, ww2, advanced warfare and infinite warfare

 

THIS SHIT WAS SO SIIICK, OH MY GOD THIS SCENE WAS SO FUCKING COOOOL

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THIS PART WITH THE GIANT SPACE SHIPS WAS FUCKING AWESOME

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Ah okay, my tastes in FPS games are uh... a tad generic I guess. I love Doom, Quake, Unreal, Half-Life, Portal, Team Fortress and Halo. Even then, not even anything after Reach, there's a good chance you'd *like* Halo 4 and 5 if they were on PC, as they don't really feel anything like Halo 1 or 2.

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13 minutes ago, Lambda Core said:

Ah okay, my tastes in FPS games are uh... a tad generic I guess. I love Doom, Quake, Unreal, Half-Life, Portal, Team Fortress and Halo. Even then, not even anything after Reach, there's a good chance you'd *like* Halo 4 and 5 if they were on PC, as they don't really feel anything like Halo 1 or 2.

i hated all the doom games, even the modern ones, i haven't played doom 3 tho, but i played doom 1, 2, 64, doom 4, and that eternal one or whatever

 

if you mean team fortress 1, the quake mod, i personally hated it, but i only played TF classic and that TF classic remake mod, which was a bit more bearable, fortress forever or something

 

i hated halo reach (the story was so lame), the last stand part at the end was cool tho, but i want to try out halo odst the most, don't care for halo 4 or 5 much at all, they looked really boring actually, and they are so flashy idk, plus i hate generic silver aliens, i want to fight the covenant instead

 

i played too much team fotress 2, i load it up sometimes but, the playerbase is really unfriendly nowdays, it's hard to even make any friends in this game, and it's plagued by bots and hackers, it's not fun at all anymore, idk, the charm is gone for me at least, since the players don't want to have fun, they are too serious or they are downright disgusting in the chat, or they just say really racist shit in game and, it's a huge turn off

 

idk i hate online multiplayer, it's such a cesspool, but tf2 was never THIS bad

 

i mean i enjoyed portal 1 but it felt really barebones and portal 2 drags a bit, i hate the levels where you play in the abbandoned facility but i enjoyed the games overall, but i don't really have fun with the second half of portal 2

 

i played too much quake 3 arena, people really liked this space map for some reason

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